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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:31 pm 
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i see nothing...

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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:17 pm 
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nice info to be share here bro..
pada aku lah, mana mana ang bersesuaian dengan keadaan dan masa nya, boleh lak kita pertahan kan...but to be like them, know the jungle and all the things inside it, is something that can only be learn...let say..forever??
kepada saper lah agaknyer segala ilmu tu nak mereka turunkan??

tak der yang sudi ker??

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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:49 pm 
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saya rasa bukan dorang tak sudi abang ejol...cuma sebab diorg tak pandai tenet sebab tu tak pat share kat sini... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:01 pm 
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however on the deliberate side..please note that not because they (refer to old timer with great talisman whatsover...) do not want to share their knowledge or skill but i believe more than a few interrelated factor jeopardizing the effort to spread or dessimate their knowledge...

number one factor that i can think of....no proper documentation on whatsoever skill,knowledge,expertise....

without proper documentation in any form, i would say,..it would be very difficult to uphold the longevity and continuity of certain tradition or cultural aspect....lets take one example...the perfect timing for planting or opening new padi huma plot...mesti ada cara org lama ni nak kira masa yg sesuai...tapi benda ni tak pernah direkodkan

same goes to few other skills...like knowing which wild plant that can be taken raw, wild mushroom, etc...is there any manual on that?..tak ada kan..

..and also item like cerita rakyat which pass generation to another using verbal...without proper documentation it will soon lost...while in rejoi, someone in our group try to record Piminyu Nyamba..but that fellow was not around..so we can't

second factor..the time have change and the new generation may have a differed priorities and need..so most of the time we tend to forgot and overlook all of these things....masa gawai je balik kapg..mana ada masa nak belaja semua benda tu...

jadi kedua-dua faktor tu saya rasa menyumbang kepada situasi akan susahnya nak menjaga dan mengekalkan semua ini..

satu.. sebab org tua tu sendiri dah semakin tua dan tiada usaha nak merekodkan

kedua..sebab kalau diajar pun bukan anak muda nak tau benda tu....main tenet rajinlah...hehee

..jadi abg ejol.. itu pandangan saya...

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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:45 pm 
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good info. keep digging.

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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:12 am 
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bidayuhs are lucky (or maybe unlucky) to be malaysian as if not because the moutanious terrain of the geographical landscape making it difficult to really divide malaysia and indonesia border between sarawak and kalimatan. due to that those days the people responsible in mapping out the border line have to make it a straight line or esle they will never can complete the job so maybe due to difficulties in some areas they with or without knowing it they could have included bidayuh settlements and villages to part of malaysia. being done that the populaiton of bidayuh is small in malaysia. as for actual fact the main heartland of bidayuh is actually within the mountainous areas of kalimantan.

the tringgus tribe maybe extinct in malaysia part i beleive many areas in kalimantan still has tringgus people.

those people especially the bidayuh of gumbang located just next to the border use to walk down from the highland or moutains to bidayuh village in jagoi to do barter trade. they will travel on foot and carry big juah or tambuk on thier heads and back filled with forest or hunting and agricultural product and trade it in exchange for more modernise product such as cloth, appliances, and other necessities. due to the strict border control now the trade can only be done at the border check point.

we are somthing like the malaysian chinese where the majority of the population ins in china or like the indians where the majority population is in india as our bidayuh is majority in kalimantan. in fact if the whole of borneo is made a country, other than iban which is a majority in sarawak and the kadazan who is a majority in sabah, we bidayuh will be the biggest race in the whole of borneo.

if we go to kalimantan as some of us did, we can hear that the dialect is some sort similar as we can still understand some of the words used.


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 Post subject: Re: Tringgus Tribe of Sarawak
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:10 am 
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Dear gothness..sori to tumpang your thread..but I believe my article below may have something to do with your topic..iaitu pasal orang Tringgus..
Thanks..

Extracted in part from my blog.

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